新木马屠城记

一部特洛伊，在100年间断断续续被搬上银幕，翻拍了六七回，一直拍到2004年。

足见美人倾城，是多么唐璜而永恒的借口，让这碗以爱情佐料的旧饭永不冷场。

电影涉足史诗，多以以小见大的手法切入，反正不可能用两三个小时把所有的事情说圆，不如各表一枝，无限放大，其他的就让它化成语焉不详的尘烟。

《Troy》如此，《Helen of Troy》也是如此。

我发现把这两部电影交替着看，才能拼凑出一个大致完整的特洛依。

主线一致，但各有侧重，互为补充。

齐心合力丰满了这场希腊神话中最宏伟的战争史诗。

有足够豪华的明星阵容和宏大战争场面的《Troy》，众神和爱情统统靠边，大概是因为皮特够大牌。

他扮演的阿喀琉斯头不大却比起任何一届都更有情有义，骁勇善战。

就连他的死期也被人尽其才的延长到了木马屠城之后。

所以它的遗憾正如阿喀琉斯的脚跟，微小却是致命的——特洛伊——这么波澜壮阔的名字，不是一两个英雄的战争就能但待得起的。

将近三个小时的《Helen of Troy》，始终以一种平静得近乎残酷的叙事方式，还原了那场超越了战争本身的爱情。

它是关于海伦的特洛伊，比十年的征战，这场爱情的浩劫更加残酷漫长，渗透并贯穿了她的一生。

要把“天下最美的女人”落实到电影里一个活生生的角色，委实众口难调。

所以关于海伦的美貌，是难以言述的形态。

既无关端庄，也不甚妖艳，却以人尽可夫的实用主义幸存到最后，也许才能满足所有人的胃口。

即便她是宙斯和丽达下的蛋，高贵血统和无与伦比的美貌也没能改变海伦的命运，她始终挣扎在女神们的自私和男人们的欲望之中，她的美貌在爱琴海迎风招展，爱情却在惊涛下撕成碎片。

在虚荣和贪婪面前，爱情不过是群雄挥舞的矛，诸神乱射的箭。

这大概也是我喜欢希腊神话的原因，在神灵面前，人类表现出来的抗争和无奈，背后都隐藏着无法逾越的巨大悲哀。

“What a man has to learn through suffering is not this or that particular thing, but the knowledge of the limitations of humanity, of the absoluteness of the barrier that separates him from the divine. It is ultimately a religious insight-that kind of insight which gave birth to Greek tragedy”电影海报：从电影海报就能看出这两部电影的侧重。

左幅是03版的《Helen of Troy》，右幅是04版的《Troy》。

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In these dark times,the only thing we have left hold on to is love, the one true gift of gods, and it is through love that we hope and pray the gods will send us peace. 看完Helen of Troy，我哭了，不能自已。

我通篇只看到了两个字：苦难。

一出生就被国王和王后遗弃的帕里斯，一出生就被父亲视为不详的海伦，爱上海伦却被海伦离弃的斯巴达王，身为希腊王后却憎恨自己丈夫的海伦的姐姐，英勇却被残忍的阿基琉斯杀死的赫克托，善良而睿智但却亡国的特洛伊国王……一群人的命运纠缠在一起，不得超脱。

唯一让人感到温暖的，是海伦和帕里斯的爱情。

他们为彼此而存在，为彼此而抗争。

但仍然要面临死亡、离别，天各一方，各自面对着孤独与思念。

命运。

最后，历尽屈辱和悲伤的海伦来到帕里斯死去的地方，抚摸着柱子上帕里斯的血迹，神样的帕里斯从烟雾中现身。

他拉起她:“Brave Helen”."wherever you are,take me with you.”"I can not.”“Will we meet again?”“I prepare you place”"Good.”海伦答道。

然后帕里斯就消失了。

那是她所有的希望。

海伦与斯巴达王的对话也是意味深长。

他抽出剑，海伦恭顺地俯下身体、露出脖颈。

"Do you really think I will kill you, Helen?""I do not thank you for my life.""I understand.""I can not love you．”“what will you do?""I will follow you."海伦说。

一丝欣慰涌上斯巴达王的面颊，“I accept.”她虽然不爱他，但她决定信任他。

她跟着他，消失在路的尽头。

2003年版的Helen of Troy比2004年版的Troy拍得好，它更深地诠释出了人性与命运、苦难与爱情。

只是爱情，可以给我们救赎吗？

等待，是一千年，还是一万年？

片中时间停止那一段真是神来之笔。

海伦的美貌在爱琴海迎风招展，爱情却被惊涛撕成了碎片。

她并不是战争的根源,而是战争的牺牲品罢了。

她并不是祸水,只是长了一副令人难以抗拒的脸庞。

绝大多数的人无法预知，因为无法预知而总盼望着更美好、更幸福，而不肯珍惜身边拥有的。

总觉得女人的过分美丽真的是一种罪过——你可以如此的肆意，哭的最无辜，笑的最灿烂。

更可以让无数的男人为你不惜一切，连生命都不要。

真是不知道那些家伙在想些什么，仅仅为了你的美丽么？

仅仅，或者这个词用的很无耻，这样一个迷人的女子，连我都认真的爱她，何况那些男人？

然而女孩对女孩的爱是完全不同的吧……没有看上她的脸，不会嫉妒。

这种透明的爱和喜欢，是只想着迷乱的男人所无法感受的……女爱是为大爱，也可能被骂是les，无畏。

可是海伦啊，我又是这么恨你…………当女孩子已经只能靠着男子生存时，她就丧失了自己的本性了吧？

即便你再灿烂的对着我笑，总还是少了什么的……当命运的指轮落到你丈夫里，当你母亲背转身不再要你时，你是否想过反抗呢？

特洛伊完了，帕里斯不在了，你被你丈夫拖回去的时候，我真的看到回身看我的你，静静的流泪了……佳人倾城……

“Kill him！

Kill him！

”影片一开始就抓住了观众的心，主旨也昭然若揭。

#爱情木马#一看到“特洛伊战争”，很多人就会立刻联想到绝世美女海伦。

但这部影片弱化了美人的作用，让海伦不至于红颜祸水到导致一个国家的灭亡，让海伦变成一个不仅是美丽的而且是善良勇敢的女人。

影片强化了爱情的作用。

帕里斯作为牧羊人，他命运的转折点在角斗场上，他只是为了赢回自己的牛而不顾一切，在此之前他是孤独的，在此之后他与特洛伊国王相认，他的兄长费心积虑地派遣他去斯巴达，兄长的目的也被帕里斯一下子戳穿，但帕里斯还是去了。

作为一个强大国家的王子，没带几个士兵，只有仆人作为随从，乘着一艘小帆船漂洋过海，这也是帕里斯的孤独。

海伦也是孤独的，活泼的天性总是被父亲贬得一文不值，身边的男人都笑吟吟地看着她，但心里不知道荡漾着怎样的坏水。

一个自称国王的流氓绑架了她，却是真正对她好的照顾她的。

在最后，流氓和哥哥一起死在她的眼前，她的身份从高高在上的公主落入了连妓女都不如的境地。

所以帕里斯和海伦的相爱并不在于水中镜里的相见，而是在于那喧闹舞会中的目光对视。

在自己都经历过那么多无可奈何之后再看见对方，更是坚定了对方是自己生活中的力量和希望，是爱的力量让海伦明知自己会为特洛伊带来灾难仍然跳入水中游向帕里斯即将离开的船，是爱的力量让在家里没有任何地位的帕里斯，勇敢站在那么多长老的面前向特洛伊王求情。

#战争木马#这部《新木马屠城记》新就新在也弱化了神的作用，。

三女神争金苹果的环节只是一带而过，起得也只是引出海伦这一人物的作用。

所以战争的爆发不是其他书中所说的万将枯骨只为美人回顾，而是有其必然性和宿命性。

要说海伦是这一战争的导火线，我觉得海伦恐怕承受不起这么重的罪过。

她成了墨涅拉俄斯的妻子之后，过着混沌的生活，被阿伽门农调戏，还被命令去裸体出现在有众多首领的舞会上，取悦他们。

观察到影片开始的宴会上，舞女在众人面前扭着曼妙的舞姿，至少也是衣裤蔽体的，可见她在斯巴达过的是什么生活，她的丈夫更是脓包的令人发指。

这样一个女子不能成为战争爆发的原因，只能是一个小小的借口，按照阿伽门农的性格，即使没有海伦，他联合爱琴海的其他首领还是会找机会攻打特洛伊，而且他们也已经商量好了，只是时间前后的问题。

#命运木马#影片具体展现的不是在神的影响下的特洛伊战争，而是人的发展下的特洛伊战争，更是命中注定的特洛伊战争。

我此处所说的命运，不是神安排的命运，而是每个人的性格和他们的行为交织在一件事中所导向的最终命运似的不可逆转的结局。

命运的齿轮从帕里斯被牧羊人救起就开始转动。

善良爱子的特洛伊夫妇一定会与帕里斯相认，倔强的帕里斯一定明知山有虎偏向虎山行地去斯巴达，任性的海伦一定会跟深爱着的帕里斯走，面对深爱的人帕里斯一定会护她到底，阿伽门农和墨涅拉俄斯一定会不管是为了作为借口的“丈夫的面子”，还是内心深处的贪婪去攻打特洛伊，拥有大国的尊严并想借机打压反动分子特洛伊王一定会直面斯巴达的挑战，所以这场战争始末，都是命运在作祟，一环扣一环。

最后，在这部偏向特洛伊的电影里，导演把希腊人往反角色拍。

阿喀琉斯也被塑造得如恶魔般凶残。

墨涅拉俄斯则像恶魔中的清流一般，不屑于胜之不武，还宽心地放弃心爱的人。

相反的罗马人一个个都正直善良，国王富有同情心且正义感十足，大王子也有义气地为了弟弟而死去，帕里斯友好勇敢深情。

正派反派黑白分明。

虽然电影有不少的BUG，如之前一直不相信卡珊德拉的话，海伦却在后面因为她卡珊德拉的一句话孤身去敌营做交易，而后帕里斯轻易地闯入敌营，轻易地将阿喀琉斯杀死，还轻易在和海伦你侬我侬的时候被阿伽门农杀死，真是让人百思不得其解。

重头戏木马的部分，木马做得很漂亮，失去两子的特洛伊国王因伤心过度蒙蔽了双眼，一下子就中了激将法把木马运入城中的解释也说得通，画面精美，让工人拆了城墙让木马进来这一细节也处理地很好，跟看文字想象的场面很相似。

阿伽门农因为残暴而被克莱特内斯特拉亲手杀死最后善有善报恶有恶报。

从始至终卡珊德拉的预言，无论是剧里的人物还是读者都不愿意相信，但现在看来，她的预言都一一实现了，所以人是该相信还是不该相信？

对命运的探索，人类从古至今都未曾停止过。

This movie tells us a story rather a piece of history. A story xabout love, desire and fate.Instead of Trojan War, the movie focuses on the most beautiful woman in the world, Helen, and talks about her happiness, sadness, and her love story. This movie basics on the mythology of Trojan War, which remain for 10 years between Troy and Greek. Besides, the director and screenwriters add a lot of imagination of Trojan War into the movie, which makes this movie more attractive and dramatic than the history it is. The myth of Trojan War is about men’s power and strength. In “Helen of Troy”, the principle line is centring on Helen, and this original perspective of Trojan War brings us a new story and gives us another understanding of this myth. Compared with the fight scenes between two countries, the movie uses more parts to narrate the story of Helen. What’s more, it turns Trojan War from a ruthless war story into a moving love story. At the beginning, infant Paris was predicted by his sister that his growth would bring the whole Trojan into death, and he was abandoned by his cruel father. The destiny was unfold before audience. Under the guidance of the goddess Aphrodite, Paris saw Helen from the gold apple, and Helen saw him in the water. Then they could not help but fell in love with each other. Their love were not accepted, because when Paris found Helen, she was wife of the king Sparta, Menelaus. Paris and Helen confront their love and impediments, however, this cause the conflict between Troy and Greek.From this movie, we can see the tragedies of women directly. They did not have any rights to do what they like. They could not choose their loves, and women then were just used as a tool for men’s game of thrones. Such as Helen, she knew herself loved Paris when she saw him first time, but she still had to marry Menelaus. She could not make decision for herself. It is very ridiculous to blame Helen on causing the big war. Cassandra, who predicted the ending of Troy, always said that Helen would bring Troy into disaster. Who caused the war exactly? It were the aggressive men. Helen was just a brave woman who followed heart and chased her love. The emulative dominators would still fight against each other even if Helen did not escape with Paris. Helen was used as a tool or a reason for men’s conquer. Therefore, it was not fair for Helen to undertake the responsibility of Trojan War.There is another question, what is the fate? In Cassandra’s eyes, Paris made Troy burnt, and Helen’s arrival brought Troy unfortunate is the fate. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the fate is that Helen and Paris hit it off right from the start. The fate in this story is love rather than the war.In addition, we can see the greedy and cruel men in that period especially in Greek. Agamamnon and Achilles are described as such hateful men. By contrast, Paris and Menelaus are more kind and lofty. In fact, before I watched “Helen of Troy”, I was more supporting Greek side, because it was Troy who had prior fault, and it was Paris who robbed Menelaus’ wife. However, the charactors in this movie were depicted very vivid, it successfully changed Paris into a brave, kind, and upright boy, and also, Menelaus became a humane person. The background music of this movie is beautiful and graceful, and it sounds like telling a sad story. Especially after Paris was died and Troy was occupied by the Greeks, Paris appeared infront of Helen, which was just the hallucination of Helen. The frames combined with the music makes audiece feel regretful for Helen. Trojan War was a disaster, not only for Troy, but also for Helen.As the movie tells us at last, “War is waged by nations, but it is the human beings that pay the price.” The poor citizens suffered the severe pain, as well as Helen, the poor woman who lost her love, the love which she ever called it “hope”.

　　Helen of Troy 　　 ——猜到了开头，失望了结尾 　　 经过了多少年的流传，Helen of Troy早已成为红颜祸水的代名词，希腊传说中Helen惊人的美貌、与帕里斯之间唯美或饱含欲望的关系、高贵神秘的身份……都让古老悠远的神话更加扑朔迷离引人入胜。

不管何时，美人从来都是极富吸引力的，更何况是美得乱了天下、毁掉一个城邦的海伦，所以，在看到影片名称时我就觉得它成功了——特洛伊的海伦，且不管重点是在特洛伊与海伦之上，还是在已经为人熟知的“红颜祸水”之上，至少，像画龙点睛一样，海伦的名字，这个神秘而传奇的女人的名字，就让人平添了许多想象与好感。

乍看之下，以为是从海伦的视角来塑造整个战争故事，或是将海伦提点出来、一改往日男人战争中沦为陪衬的物品姿态，让我们看看即使命运无法自己掌控却依然有血有肉的“人”，于是，便兴致勃勃地关注海伦随水池中看见帕里斯、被绑架、失去弟弟和“劫持者”、被残忍地驱逐出嫁、沦为赤裸在100余位首领面前的“新娘”、遇见帕里斯、和帕里斯逃走……直到最后告别帕里斯的亡魂、决定信任墨涅俄斯、却最终无法摆脱被阿伽门农凌辱的悲惨结局。

　　 不能不说，影片中的海伦是美的，美在初长成人时骑马出游的青春活力、美在看到水池中帕里斯后的芳心暗许、甚至美在被雅典王子忒修斯意外劫持后对其的信任与喜爱、和愿意逃离痛苦选择与爱的人一同远走的勇敢……但这样的海伦并不是我所期待的海伦，她可以一见钟情、可以不顾后果、可以随心所欲……但是，如果仅仅是这样的海伦、这样拥有美丽无比的外表和公主气性的女人，就真的值得人们口口相传美丽无比的女中珍珠吗？

　　不。

　　也许我不该对既定的神话有过多在许多人眼中无意义的质疑与声讨，但“一千个观众心中有一千个哈姆莱特”，身为无数观众中的一个，我自认为理应表达对心中海伦的希望。

—— Frailty, thy name is woman!莎士比亚在《哈姆莱特》中抛出了这样一句话，虽然我不认同，但却以为该做—— Frailty, thy name is Helen!是极为合适的。

阿伽门农之妻克吕泰涅斯特拉可以因为恨丈夫为求顺风献祭他们的女儿伊菲革涅亚而大胆行刺、因为对当年抛弃孩子亚历山德罗的行为后悔内疚，特洛伊王后赫卡柏抛下一切重新接纳了帕里斯并为他留下海伦…….不管她们是不是另有隐情，至少我们看到了她们的勇气和真正鲜活的人格生命。

很遗憾，我在影片中从头到尾只看见了海伦空洞的美——对于对她关心爱护的弟弟，她没有为他因就她而死留下一滴眼泪；对于赤身裸体沦为众首领一同分享的玩物这样的待遇，她毫无反应；甚至对于愿意跟随逃离的帕里斯，她口口声声说爱，却宁愿在帕里斯的死亡之处，重新选择了跟随墨涅俄斯，并再一次在阿伽门农的凌辱之下苟延残喘…… 　　这，不是我所希望看到的海伦，不管在何种时代背景下，她都不应该是逆来顺受的玩物，即使命运残酷，她也需要自己去扎根、去成长、哪怕去抗争！

而不是成为任人凌虐只求依附、毫无生气的点缀，这是我所期待能够得到展现的海伦。

当时买这个版本开始是因为记错了，以为是皮特的版本，后来看的时候才发现不是。

片子比较长，但是看的时候没有觉得时间，因为情节比较紧凑，场面和演技不逊于皮特的Troy。

待到后来去影院看了Troy皮特版，反而觉得不如这个片子了。

A beauty, a hero, and a king, three person’s stories; beauty, courage, and desire, three different emotions. Their intersection is the movie "Helen of troy". Paris in the dark was suddenly coming out of the enemy draw knife stabbed several died on the spot ……Helen was raped by Agamemnon, who could not resist, In the end, back to the starting point - she still followed his husband, whom she did not love ...... the men, who personally killed his daughter for war ritual, Agamemnon, was eventually killed by his wife ...... the surprising plots to shook the people's nerves. If they had known these final results, will they go to still struggle for it? Still to pursue? Will they chooser the same choices. Helen is the beauty, she represents the free of love. Helen is just a weak woman, even though she has a beautiful face. Every woman is eager to be a beauty, but the beauty of Helen brought her a series of disasters, “The beautiful woman suffered a harsh life”. Her beauty becomes the object of desires of many men: she is robbed by Theseus, then his brother robbed her back; her father hated her; the kings got together and decided her vest. Her body was her own, but she is not independence. All of these makes Helen flee. Perhaps it is unforgivable that Helen fled from Greece in the eyes of the Greeks. But as a woman, it is a pursuit of free love. For love, she blows everything. Helen, who is an active life, she knows what she wants, and pursuit of the goal of herself. She proved that women are not just an object of desire for men, she also has the ability to initiate the pursuit of love and happiness. From Helen I also thought of "Yingying biography" the girl Cui Yingying, and" Stone Story "Lin Daiyu."Stone Story "Lin seems to get rid of the tragic fate, the novel pointed to the Lin's identity at the beginning, she is the reincarnations of annatto, Lin struggled for independent personal love and freedom, she suffered extraordinary pains. Lin therefore shed the last drop of for true love. In addition, from Helen's story, I saw the ancient Greeks’ questing for the beauty. As a modern man, I cannot understand, a decade of war, the ultimate goal of war is for a beauty, which no modern man can understand. Perhaps in the eyes of Greeks, The beauty is above anything, beauty is truth. The two sides compete for peerless beauty Helen, countless soldiers went dark for the beauty of sacrifice without regrets. Perhaps because of this, the ancient Greek create the elegant and refined, noble and lively, full of artistic expression full of beautiful statues. Paris is also a hero. He is different from the movie "Troy" that Paris no longer hid in the city, and did not meet the enemy, he is not the cowardly Paris. Although he was not the first warrior of Troy, but he does not intend to surrender to anyone, he fight for his own reputation. The pursuit of honor and dreams and goals of each ancient Greek hero. They process in the pursuit of honor, individuality, self-affirmation, to realize their own values, but also to indulge the desire to sacrifice moral, ethical. War is an important way to get the honor. the release of passion, you can win a lot of trophies, enhanced reputation, the subject of admiration. For example, Achilles would rather die, than want to lead his life comfortably at home. Agamemnon symbolizes the desire, his desire to focus on three areas: the woman - Helen; for wealth, power; against honor. Agamemnon's desire to unite to meet the end of the movie, though, but with the life disappear, he could not really have his income. As a man, he was eager to Helen's beauty; as king, eager to wealth, power; as a great hero, the pursuit of honor. His desire, the more and more damage to others. To his desires, he snubbed his wife, killed her daughter, coerced brother, kill the tens of thousands of people. Sadly with the disappearance of his own lives, Agamemnon cannot really have his income. This is the tragedy of human destiny. Second, the pursuit of wealth and power. As a king, Agamemnon is thirst for power and greed for wealth, which coexists with the growing strength of his ambition. At that time the Greek states, the most powerful Mycenae, Agamemnon is the highest leader of the entire Greek region, he orders the pack, assembled troops. Achilles, Odysseus, Menelaus and so obey him. He wants absolute power, which makes him particularly arrogant men. He also wants to conquer the ocean side of the Trojan people, so that they surrender to him. In the film, his fierce eyes prove arrogant Agamemnon. Any of his decisions are irrefutable. He dreamed to conquer the world. In the film, Agamemnon is the object of many desires, he desire carrier interests, wealth, excuse powers and so on. After decades of war, he was loaded with booty, honor and go, very comfortable lying tub. Then Agamemnon reached the pinnacle of his life. He is successful, peak moment is also low moments, all of his life is together with his disappearance. People admire the ancient Greek heroes, we should also ponder war and humanity. Society needs proper desire, need good human, but definitely do not need

没有丢掉原本故事的味儿，但又有了更丰富的情节。

Helen是一个更重要的线索，正如标题所说。

叫“木马屠城”却总觉得有点奇怪。

还是很感人的。

每一个角色都塑造的很不错。

甚至连Paris都没那么讨厌了。

阿伽门农和墨涅拉奥斯的形象我很喜欢。

尤其后者。

觉得他们已经不是高度抽象的英雄，而是有人性的真实存在。

阿伽门农一开始就意欲占有海伦。

但海伦只是一个借口，他最渴望征服的是征服特洛伊。

墨涅拉奥斯是个软绵绵优柔寡断的家伙。

我很喜欢他和Hector决斗那段。

不过电影在表现时间跨度的时候手法并不高明。

并没明显感觉到有10年之久。

Hector那么快就死了...弱化啊弱化！

我绝对是有不满的...整个故事很有神话的味道。

服装，音乐，人物的口音与语气。

觉得每个人都像极了我心目中的那个神话人物。

无论是英雄们，还是女人们（尤其是Cassandra）。

只是海伦一开始天真活泼的样子有点费解...最后交代清楚阿伽门农死在了他老婆的手里，也是一个很不错的手法。

觉得只有这样，一个歌颂爱情的故事才算是有了完整的结局。

百度百科是谁写的？

谁说这是烂片来着？

照我说，有Brad Pitt的那个版本才是烂片。

别叫Troy,叫Achilles风流传算了，更商业更吸引...